Much Ado About Punching

Posted by on December 31, 2009

I was recently asked about punching in play on an anonymous question forum. I believe the question was prompted by some recent mentions of a play date that involved some fist pounding.

The question was this; “For your impact play (as in punching) what medical training have you gone through to perform it safely?”

I think this is an interesting question and due to the nature of the forum I cannot tell if it was posited as a legitimate query of interest or a bit of a snarky jab. But either way I have expanded on my answer here;

The simple answer is NONE! and quite frankly I don’t believe there is any amount of “Training” that can make punching or many other forms of edge play safe. At the same time as someone who spent a substantial part of his first quarter century punching and being punched I wonder if I don’t know more about it than most medical professionals. I have had my nose broken, lower teeth pushed through my lip and I have pissed blood for a week more than one time. I have delivered blows that made men feel like they were in a car wreck. I lived through all of them and learned much from them.

When I truly punch someone it is to either protect myself or punish the recipient, my target exist somewhere behind the body mass I am punching and as my arm is extended it is beginning the reflexive withdraw for the next blow. Would I do this in a scene? Never! Could this be done with any medical safety? Unlikely,and I hope not. This is my weapon and it has served me well. Not to mention that the most likely first target is somewhere on the cranium of my intended recipient.

I started pondering this question when I first had a bottom mention to me that she liked to be punched. I wondered first of all what did she mean by “Punched” and quickly found that what she thought of as punching was far lighter than what I would consider a punch. The play she described and had experienced as well as what I find that many people refer to as punching in a scene I would consider a percussive pounding using my fist. The force of these blows I would say are less than my punch by a magnitude of 5 or more.

Does this pounding carry some medical danger. I would say yes as would any play that can impact or bruise the skin or muscle tissue.

This brings us to the question of SSK (Safe, Sane, Consensual) vs. Rack (Risk Accepted Consensual Kink). In my not so humble opinion Safe is a ludicrous word to use in what we do. If it was safe it would hold little interest for many. Do I do my very best to understand and control the risk associated with what I do, and do I carefully inform my partners as to what I perceive the risk to be and what I will do to mitigate it? Absolutely.

When asked at a recent play party by someone I had agreed to play with if I would include some punching, I clarified that she was referring to the percussive impact using my fists. I find that it is very often the back side of a clenched fist adjacent to the pinky that is very effective. This is commonly referred to as a hammer fist. An advantage of this area is it is mostly muscle tissue without the bony impact of the front of the fist. I also am fond of reaching around the person and using the top of my clenched fist near my thumb. I find that this incorporates the control and dominant positioning associated with “Take Down” as well as a limited impact pounding.

Recently I was asked by a bottom to consider punching her in the stomach hard enough to lift her off off her feet and knock the wind out of her. Am I considering? Yes as a matter of fact I am.

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Comments (8)

  • It was I who asked you that question, I did not realise that I actually had sent it anonymously. I was truly interested in your answer as I do agree with most of the things you say. However as someone with a medical background the damage you can possibly do with impact play once you understand what to hit and what not to hit, how hard to hit and how often to hit can be minimised.

    I do agree with you that edge play will always carry an inherent risk that can only be assumed and never controlled. I am very happy that you expanded on the question and very grateful for the answer. I know I could never do this type of play. I might be able to asphyxiate my slave, but I simply cannot bring myself to punch anyone.

    • Herowner Well, it makes me happy to know that the question was not asked as a condemnation. I actually completely understand your position on this. I just think that a level of knowledge that is necessary to reduce the risk does not necessarily have to be through medical training, however it certainly can’t hurt.

  • Thank you for that insight. I have watched a scene where the female dominant truly was punching her male sub in the classic punch posture. He seemed to really be enjoying it. Granted, your average 5′ female isn’t going to throw a punch like Tyson, she still got in some pretty good hits that made those of us watching wince ever so slightly.

    The rhythmic pounding you delivered is something to see as well. Especially if set to pounding drum beat music as well.

    • Ice Empress mmmmm, Drums it is baby. Bring your ass over here and I will play a tune. :-)

  • Congrats on the new blog Saynine! Interesting first topic for sure.
    I doubt I will ever be interested in having someone punch me for fun and pleasure but if I did I would probably go to some one who was going to do it as safely as possible.
    I agree that “Safe” is a relative term in this lifestyle. What might be “safe” for one person isn’t necessarily so for someone else.

    • kahlanas thanks for stopping by. I appreciate the support.

  • Welcome to the blogging world, Saynine! I knew punching was an interest for some kinksters, but I had never read an explanation of how one goes about it before now. Not my kink, but definitely fascinating.

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