I’m Here, I’m Queer???

Posted by on August 23, 2010

I have lately given much thought to labels and how we choose and use them. I have for sometime used the label “Pansexual”. I use this to indicate that my sexual appetite is not limited by gender barriers. I am in fact sexually greedy and find I have desires and the will to have sexual contact with just about any gender configuration imaginable.  I intentionally avoid “Bi-Sexual” as the binary term irritates me and also seems to indicate a sort of switching back and forth. At least to me.

Lately there has been a word, no an idea that has been bouncing around my head. Queer! Wow, what a loaded word. A word I am drawn to but yet cannot decide if it fits.

I am not going to get into the etymology and origins of the word. I am only concerned with it’s current usage as a word of empowerment.

I am going to think aloud a bit and invite you as I so often have to take a front row seat to the bizarre thought process that is me.

My first question; Am I Worthy? On the one hand I am not only a greedy fucker, but I so completely support the politics that is the Queer movement, that I am almost certainly a part of it. But make no mistake. My current state of being is the result of a personal epiphany in my early twenties and a slow evolution since then. It is not easy to say this, but previous to the above stated revelation, I was a sexual bigot. I make no excuses but I was raised in an environment of Racial, Religious, and Sexual Hate. For reasons I have not yet discerned I was able to completely refuse to accept the first two, yet embraced the third. One theory is that it was a way to externalize a reaction to being sexualized by a male relative at a young age, but even that smells like an excuse, so I reject it. What is true is I accept responsibility for my attitudes and have spent the rest of my life trying to correct them.

Next question; How can I be Queer and look and act so appropriate for my gender? OK, maybe a bit of a silly question, but think about it. How many “Queer” Uber-Butch Cis-Males do you know? On the other hand, I have spent my entire life setting myself aside from the crowd appearance and action wise. In Xtian School I refused to sing hymns or kneel and pray. Not that either of these would have been hard to at least fake, but I made conscious choices to set myself apart in every way I could. In my teens I had both of my ears pierced in multiple locations. Now for this to have full impact you need to know that I am as old as dirt and this was before George Michael made this look at least remotely popular. And until my growing forehead made it just silly looking I had hair to my waist for decades.  And now long after such things are sensible, I have started wearing gauged earrings.  Of course none of these things makes me even remotely Queer, but do speak to a lifelong desire to set myself outside the crowd.

In the end the biggest question is one that I find the hardest to address; Do other Queers want me using their word, their empowerment, their symbol of struggle? This is an odd position to find myself in. Caring what others think, but I do. As someone who has married into the Native American community I am painfully familiar with how a people that are proud, yet steeped in struggle can have their culture and symbols of power appropriated by those who neither understand nor deserve these things. In using the title Queer would I be no better than a New-age Shamanist with a dreamcatcher hanging from my car mirror, telling folks that my great grandmother was a Cherokee Princess? This one Is the greatest hang-up.

In the balance I am quite aware that it does not matter what I call myself. But yet this is the itch on my brain these days.

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Comments (21)

  • Wow. I rarely talk on your blog because (I will fess up) you scare me. But in a good way. The way I like to be scared. However, I am a) of Native American heritage and b) write about people who run the sexual gamut. so i'll open my big fat timid mouth for a moment.

    My rusty two cents would be that if you are bandying about this title in a positive supportive way, most people (of all walks of life) would be for it. Cyndi Lauper said something super wonderful on Ellen one day when she said any kind of movement takes all kinds of people, all walks of life. The Civil Rights movement required the banding together of all folks.

    I write it all from vanilla, to lesbian, to gay male, to bisexual/pansexual/omnisexual, threesomes, twosomes, onesomes, foursomes. Biting, spanking, caning, whipping, missionary, doggie-style, tied to a tree and bent double.

    Because in the end, i think we're all just sexual. Period. The last time I looked, I'm no a gay man, but I love gay men. And gay women. I basically love anyone who has the balls to stand up and be who they are and demand the world accept them. When you posted that picture of the guy in the skirt and your tag made me expect a woman and I got a guy. Hottest thing ever.

    Bottom line, if you are using your words/titles/tags in a positive way, I say that you are doing a positive thing. No matter what name you slap on yourself.

    God. Did that make sense?
    xoxo
    Sommer

    • Wow, Sommer… that was an awesome reply!

      I agree wholeheartedly… if you are using your messages in a positive way… then, in my opinion, you're doing it right… no matter what.

      Is one person “more queer” than another? Doubtful. Is one who lives a lifestyle other than yours… wrong? NO… just different than you are.

      People are going to have issues with other people… regardless.

      We all have to do what feels comfortable to us.. and again…if you are doing something in a positive way… which you are, by the way, Poppa… you are doing it right.

  • Why are we so obsessed with labels?

    • Well, in my case I believe that in some ways it is a way to stand up and be counted. I do not believe that this is possible or sometimes even prudent for some folks, but for those of us that can it is weight of support for a cause.

  • If calling yourself Queer suits you then by all means use it! As long as you are authentic who is it for anyone to judge?

    “What others think of me is none of my concern”

    It is what I think of myself, that is what matters to me, and as long as I remain dis-illusioned and authentic I have nothing to worry about. :)

    You my friend are full of awesome sauce and I find you to be a breath of fresh air being so open about your appetite. It is sad that there are not more who take your approach.

  • I think both queer and pansexual are descriptive and include your identity as you describe yourself. I'm a card-carrying homo and I would certainly invite you. However, you are right to feel some caution. I myself, after 30 years of being exclusively lesbian then falling in love with a man, have experienced bigotry from within the so-called queer movement. The most obnoxious argument to date about me identifying as lesbian goes something like “yeah go ahead and call yourself a vegan while you eat meat, whatever.” I have even been criticized for just not being gay enough, as a cis woman who is on the feminine side of the spectrum, yet a top. (The most surprising, strange, selective bigotry to me remains how many cis lesbians will accept trans men (born women) into their communities but not trans women (because they were born men). I think in that case, the bias is against cis men, so beware.)

    I would be curious to know if cis men who identify as heterosexual would be threatened by you choosing “queer.” As it describes your proclivities, does it throw into question your masculinity? (You're a tough looking dude! :) I have a friend who is a very masculine gay male, 6'5″, all muscle. I have seen both less masculine gay men, and equally or less masculine straight men, feel threatened by his identity. It's ridiculous, really. You are never going to be queer enough to suit everybody, and you are always going to be a little too queer for others.

    I think it is our right as individuals to apply whatever labels we choose, or none at all. Your body is not a democracy. You get to decide who and what you are, and what you call yourself, if anything. You and you alone.

    I have a butch lesbian friend, the one of all my LGBT friends who hasn't question the validity of my relationship with a man in the context of my life as a lesbian. She just said, “you're queer.” And it made sense. I like queer because it is subversive and broad enough to really cover any kind of kink. I also like and regularly use pansexual because to me it communicates a scope of appetite, and I'm rather greedy myself. :) Thanks for the post. Brave, sensitive and forward thinking.

  • I'm not sure if it's because I'm a person of a certain age, but I've honestly never fully embraced the word “queer” to describe myself. Too many childhood and teenage memories of the word slung at me in a derogatory manner, I suppose. I understand the concept of reclamation of epithets, and if another person has done so, that's great. The word just isn't a comfortable fit for me personally.

    Another term you reference, bisexual, is another I don't feel describes me either. I've had sexual relationships with both men and women, but not all of them were cisgendered. The polarity of “bisexual” just doesn't work for me when you've got an equation encompassing both sex *and* gender identities.

    So, I guess I avoid labels. I'm just Jaye, another greedy fucker.

    You said: “How many 'Queer' Uber-Butch Cis-Males do you know?”

    Quite a few, actually. I seem to attract them like magnets for some reason. I miss the Baltimore Eagle. :-)

  • I personally tend to have mixed feelings about the term “queer”. It certainly is appropriate for many aspects of my own life, personality and choices. The dictionary's various descriptions of the word sum up my own emotions on it as well.

    –adjective
    1. strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a queer notion of justice.
    2. of a questionable nature or character; suspicious; shady: Something queer about the language of the prospectus kept investors away.
    3. not feeling physically right or well; giddy, faint, or qualmish: to feel queer.
    4. mentally unbalanced or deranged.
    5. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .
    a. homosexual.
    b. effeminate; unmanly.
    6. Slang . bad, worthless, or counterfeit.

    I pride myself on being quite different, in many ways, from the 'conventional'. But it's the other definitions that give me a negative knee-jerk response to the term. Too many times I've heard “queer” used in an offensive way. I'd like to think that words only have the power we give them. But in reality, this just isn't the case often enough.

    I'm often asked why I like labeling myself. I think you said it best, Saynine, in a response to another comment. Having a label allows us to know we aren't alone. We have a support network. We have people we can go to when we need advice.

    There's no real “yes/no” answer to using “queer” as a label in my opinion. The best I've been able to come up with is, I call myself what I choose. The people who are most important to me know what I mean, what I am and accept me for it.

  • As I told you earlier, I love your latest post. But I do kind of question you using the word Queer on yourself.

    Here’s my thought process: One of my favorite pictures from the late 80s was of two gay man, one wearing a shirt that shouted, “Mr. Faggot to You” and the other with a shirt that proclaimed, “”We're Here! We're Queer! Get used to it!”

    After years of harassment, violence and degradation, these men we’re standing up to the hate. It was a war and based on their smiles, they were winning!

    To me, with that image, the words Queer and Faggot became badges of honor.

    You have a sexual appetite that is not limited by gender barriers. Their sexual appetite was limited by gender barriers and they were bullied and hated because of it. They earned the right to take hateful words, turn them around and own them.

    I’m not sure I see you where you’ve earned that right.

    • Thank yu so much for your honesty. I asked and you delivered, as I hoped you would.

      • Thanks. I appreciate you letting me respond.

        Funny how a thought provoking idea brings out my contrary/I-must-argue-the-opposite side. ;-)

  • I liked what Sommer said. Just be “sexual”. Any prefix indicates a division, a separation. Accept it all.

  • Wow. A lot of good thoughts there, especially relating to other communities and the importance of community identity. No solid answers (it's nice to see a post that doesn't feel the need to provide a solution), but thought provoking.

  • Researcher Nikki Sullivan, in her book _A Critical Introduction to Queer Theory_ defines Queer as an ideology; that is, as a “sort of vague and indefinable set of practices and (political) positions that has the potential to challenge normative knowledges and identities.” Drawing on a statement of David Halperin, she continues “since queer is a positionality rather than an identity in the humanist sense, it is not restricted to gays and lesbians but can be taken up by anyone who feels marginalised as a result of their sexual practices.”

  • Good post, my friend, I'm glad you put it out there. I also use queer as my sexual and behavioral label, after years of claiming lesbian and dyke. Like you, my sexual appetites are not restrictive enough to fit into other traditional definitions, i.e., straight, bi, lesbian, gay. At a given moment, my behavior might reflect one more than the others, but on the whole, I'm queer. By the same token, given your description of sexual desires and attitudes, you're queer too.

    My feelings about queerness have expanded over the years and I know plenty of outwardly straight couples who are plenty queer and they are some of my favorite people.

    As you've seen and others have pointed out, claiming any label can be problematic. There are always people who see themselves as the gatekeepers to the communities they claim membership to. These are the people who will call the rest of us out for breaking the rules (as they see them) and will try to claim a higher moral ground within that community for the purity of their lives in following the rules. Bullshit, I say, a false victory and a waste of time. I'm proud to welcome you into my queer tribe.

    • Kyle, your response means so much to me. Your welcome is warm and wonderful.

      • heh heh heh.. you have no idea how welcoming I can be.. but I have a feeling you're gonna find out pretty soon ;-)

  • IMO, the queer community would be proud to be able to count you among its ranks. The more voices we have standing up for acceptance and love instead of hate and bigotry, the better. The more people we have genuinely embracing and reclaiming what used to be terms of hate, the better.

    And in the end, what matters is what feels right to you. If “queer” feels right to you, then nothing and no one should stand in your way. (Not that I think many would dare to, if they saw you coming. ;D)

  • I don't find anything to apologize about in this instance of self-consciousness; my opinion only, but it seems to me you're less concerned with what people think of you, and more concerned with respecting the feelings of an already marginalized community, or being the type of proudly proclaims themselves to be something they aren't. Strikes me as something to be proud of.

    I always thought “queer” was more or less a catch-all phrase for those with an alternate sexual preference, regardless of how they fit into the more strictly defined sexual orientations. I may have a different experience with the term than most, though.

    A decade ago I was trying very hard to figure out a label for myself. When I started dabbling with the world outside of heterosexuality, I heard a lot of noise about there being no such things as “bi men;” there were just gay men with the courage to admit it, and gay men who lied to themselves because they didn't want to think of themselves as gay. Neither struck me as an apt description of myself, but not wanting to be thought less of by my new gay friends and boyfriend, I identified as gay for a year or so. Eventually I started sleeping with women again though, and I got pretty frustrated with kidding myself. At the time I was on the fence about even using the term “bisexual” again because I realized I didn't really want to “date” men anymore… I still found men sexually arousing and aesthetically pleasing, but I knew I was never going to be happy in a lifelong monogamous relationship with one.

    At the same time I belonged to GLSSN, a community that existed to support young LGBT students and give them a place to network, as well as participate in events to raise awareness of the growing LGBT community in our ultra conservative town. I confided to one of the senior members that I was feeling out of place in the network now, and didn't know whether or not I was being a “poser” for sticking around. She assured me that anyone who shares GLSSN's social and political causes should stick around, and suggested that I shouldn't spend so much time trying to pigeonhole myself as a label as I was still pretty young and things change.

    She suggested the term that I should consider using was “queer.” She explained that regardless of who I was seeing, the fact that my sexual preference would always be “yes, please” meant I was always going to be a queer. So that's the definition that always stuck with me… anything besides heterosexual.

  • I am rather late to the discussion, however I would like to add my observation. As someone who is finding her own way sexually, and has become involved in several different sexual situations that could be considered “outside the norm” of someone in her particular position of “just” wife and mom, let me just say that I find your openness refreshing and reassuring. I believe it speaks volumes about your emotional resonance and maturity that an idea such as your fitness for a particular designation should even occur to you. I myself am in no way qualified to address any kind of issue that has to do with homosexuality, bisexuality or polyamory, simply because of my relative inexperience with these subjects. There isn’t a person alive, however, who HASN’T experienced discrimination, prejudice and rejection simply because of who he is and where he has been in his life. I applaud your willingness to address the things that are important and your take on the difficult subjects that other people would like to look past.

  • Yeah, I’m late too.

    Thoughtful, wonderfully expressed post. Definitely some thoughts I’ve had from time to time.

    Thank you for sharing this.

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